Wing--Zero wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:28 pm
Fair PvP being a group of 5 (adding you it was 6) vs 1-2(Thats how it started before me and Raven got involved making it 6vs4)??? It seems to have been the norm for you and your group lately. My build specializes in using time stop and time stop scrolls. Along with a few other tricks.
I've since reworded my post to not include the word 'fair' because yes, in this particular instance it turned out the party that I had joined had more members in the group. But I guess that was the word that you latched on to and designed your response around, which is 'fair' enough.
What indeed happened was that I was invited to join a PVP brawl in Blackrose. I had no control over who was participating in the fight, nor did I even participate myself, though I did enter Blackrose as part of the larger party. I sat on the sidelines as our larger group first off defeated a smaller group. Then Raven and your character arrived with his collection of scrolls, and from there the fight was clearly one sided. Really your character should not have died at all if they'd remained under Sanctuary whilst using the scrolls, and I guess that's a mechanical error on your part.
I am also personally not concerned with dying in PVP; I've played the game long enough for that not to concern me. I can take the heat, thankyou very much.
What did concern me was the fact that the 'Greater Sanctuary/Time Stop Scroll spam' tactic that your character employed has basically no counter, aside from perhaps draggin out the fight for half an hour or so until you run out of scrolls. There is no point bringing 'strategy' or a 'good build' to a PVP fight if the whole thing is going to be determined by who first enacts an un-counterable cheese tactic. It makes PVP really boring.
As much as you would like to think that this is about me complaining about one fight, it is not; there are other people on this server too, who may want to have a PVP fight at some point, and this post is in a way a warning of what PVP can degenerate into given the current situation. Hell, the group I was with could all go off and design scroll-using cheese characters of their own and win a fight against your band of scroll-using cheese characters ... and what on earth would have been proven by doing that?
Again: I brought this up was to discuss whether not having a PVP auto-win tactic is healthy for PVP, knowing full well that this is an old server that primarily focuses on PVM. My opinion is obviously no, and was hoping to invoke some productive discussion about it. Time Stop is bad enough, but at least spellcasters are usually limited to less than 10. Unlike scrolls.
This is your groups first time having a organized group stopping you from what your doing vs the random few who have been getting attacked and jumped by your group in Blackrose.
