Long time player. First time complainer.

Fletchbren · Post by **Fletchbren** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:47 am

Im really mad about blackstone keep for 2 reasons that mainly pertain to level 40 characters. This is in my opinion a giangantic vicious circle that sucks the fun out of the server.

First : The new drop system has seriously nerfed item drops. Not so bad right? WRONG! You absolutely NEED those items to do ANYTHING! I mean half the stuff for level 40's in this game require all these high end items to do! Before you could just go to marvalle and farm for a while and eventually get some items that may be usefull but now you cant even do that with the new drop system!

Heres an example: You need ______ item to fight ______ monsters but you cant get the _______ item unless you kill the ________ monsters but you cant kill the ________ monsters without the ______ item!!!

Its so frusturating!

Another really anoying thing is that every single enemy for level 40's to fight has either A: Knock down spam or B: Implosion. Implosion usually isnt that bad a thing because if you have a high fort save youll be fine! But every time I go to mindflayers I ALWAYS ALWAYS roll 1's! I went there one night 4 times and each time I rolled a 1 on the first implosion. Its like 1's are the most common rolls or something.

I really like the server but I wish you didnt have to make every battle you fight so dependant on extremely rare items or battles dependant on how lucky you are.

P.S another thing that makes me mad is that on a post about the RP lounge, it said something along the lines of "The price may seem expensive but its not to experienced players". Experience doesnt matter anymore because the new drop system makes it almost impossible to get money!

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:02 pm

driller is trying new ideas out, it just might take some time to work out the bugs.... some day, may be we can find a good balance for the drop rate that everyone can live with....

Capt Cliff · Post by **Capt Cliff** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:18 pm

Fletchbren has a definate point! The drop system needs to return for lvl 40's, but maybe modified slightly or some items need to go into the stores... like dragon slippers, forge stones and amulets of avatar. Knockdown is a big feat, as is having the right forged equipment. If a 40 lvl can't farm a place where he/she can survive then they have hit a glass ceiling. I have a couple of PC's that have almost no forge stone and they are between 18 and 25 lvl.

We can only hope driller is on top of this and trying to work the problem. BTW, Elite belts are now in shops, you just have to find the right shop for each.

Battlerager_Draco · Post by **Battlerager_Draco** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:54 pm

Yeah, lowbies are getting better loot than the highbies...To prove my point, look at the blue forge stone Elrythin found on a zombie on the road!

Queen Naga II · Post by **Queen Naga II** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:56 pm

I have to agree with Fletchbren it is getting to the point of frustration for a lot of folks now.

I had to rescue an entire party at the ants last night all because not one of them had knockdown protection, that and lack of slashing immunities got each one of them killed.

Socket gems are way too scarce now, whilst the arcane archer cube was a nice addition it is of little use now because the sockets you need are so scarce.

The other point about sockets gems is they are really for those levels between 4 or 5 to early epic levels. If we as players can not find enough of them to see us by we have even less chance of progressing.

Again this impacts on the illusive luck stone, being non transferable/undropable stops muling them all on to one character. But if your character finds one and then can't find sockets and later can't achieve level 40. This just adds to the growing frustration, I have always been against this 1 in 20 chance of dying as well.

The biggest problem with the new drop system is older players have the equiptment, new players don't. To apply a system that gives less to the new is to penalise the new comers to BSK.

Whitewolf · Post by **Whitewolf** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:05 pm

I have to agree,

I just play, cross my fingers, and pray.

then i get bored and leave.

Fenrip · Post by **Fenrip** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:23 pm

Battlerager_Draco wrote:Yeah, lowbies are getting better loot than the highbies...To prove my point, look at the blue forge stone Elrythin found on a zombie on the road!

I am unsure what that proves.

I guess I'm turning into a cranky old timer.

There are ways to get things you need and not everyone expects RP to "earn" something. There were many who were kind to me and I just try to repay that kindness to others. As payment, I usually ask that whoever I help, helps another in the future.

Sadly, only one person took Dunabar up on his free stuff give away (see trading post forum). That person got +4 armor with some sort of resistance and a scimitar that had more than one ability bump on it. I've given away quite a few socket stones/runes to folks who make announcements in the last couple of whiles. I had 3 or 4 bags full of sockets and I know some of you have been on with me.

Thanatos · Post by **Thanatos** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:40 pm

All right, I found 90k in gold drops alone last night from lvl 15-27. Selling the items I picked up, I netted over 500k in gold total. Now, I had to log some hours to get these results, but nothing out of the ordinary. And this is after spending who knows how much money on potions to stay alive.

With regards to the forge stones, I've found reds in low lvl areas and I've found 'em in high lvl areas. Same with the blues. I haven't noticed any weird distribution statistics based on area as of yet, so I'm gonna go ahead and rule out the "lowbies getting better" thought.

Caesius · Post by **Caesius** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:15 pm

I think that there should be Gloves of Epic Discipline available for sale. It won't give immunity to knockdown, but that +30 to discipline checks can definitely cut down on the KD spammage.

ziemia · Post by **ziemia** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:17 pm

I have to agree with whitewolf (sups btw

and others. I can't find anything but those +d4 acid dmg or normal items with 20th level character, and not really a powerleveled char, means i fought mostly mobs that give fewer XP and never in party (mean less xp too), and I did all that in hope of gathering more gold, but I'm stuck with 500k... all transfered from other various chars that had all these before the drops were nerfed.

By the way, if driller is interested I have wrote a simple drop system that is based on a CR rating of the monster and can give it away. Not that this fits into the topic, but since the drops are being changed...

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:21 pm

i agree, newbies are getting better stuff then the old hats... i gave up hope on the new system and just waiting to it get back where it is should be... the old system (may be with some mods, but not this silliness)

viobane · Post by **viobane** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:27 pm

*blinks* Wait a second... This thread is an astounding demonstration of deja vu! This forum keeps having these points back and forth ad nauseum. Why, oh why? D'ya think driller knows by now that many of you are upset? Maybe another ten threads about complaints about drops might be good. I'm sure that'd convince him!

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:30 pm

viobane wrote:*blinks* Wait a second... This thread is an astounding demonstration of deja vu! This forum keeps having these points back and forth ad nauseum. Why, oh why? D'ya think driller knows by now that many of you are upset? Maybe another ten threads about complaints about drops might be good. I'm sure that'd convince him!

u have a point, but on the bright side, we something to talk about... instead of doing name calling or dumb things.....

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:45 pm

viobane wrote: D'ya think driller knows by now that many of you are upset?

do we know that for sure now? since he never told the players (as of yet) what his plans are, we are just assume that he has not heard us yet....

Fletchbren · Post by **Fletchbren** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:02 pm

Lol sorry I just realized there was like 500000 more of these threads :/....

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