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Dual Wield Kamas M6-F6-WM28

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:28 pm
by Drow Arrow
Hey guys so after my previous dual-wield build I recently (3 or 4 days ago) rebuilt my dual-wield Kama Monk this makes my third version of this build and so far it is definitely the best one in my honest opinion.

Fighter(6), Monk(6), Weapon Master(28), Human

STR: 18 (32)
DEX: 14 (15)
CON: 10
WIS: 8
INT: 14
CHA: 8

Human: (Quick to Master)
01: Monk(1): Dodge, Mobility, {Cleave, Evasion, Improved Unarmed Strike, Stunning Fist}
02: Fighter(1): Expertise
03: Fighter(2): Power Attack, Weapon Focus: Kama
04: Fighter(3): DEX+1, (DEX=15)
05: Fighter(4): Ambidexterity
06: Fighter(5): Spring Attack
07: Fighter(6): Whirlwind Attack
08: Monk(2): STR+1, {Deflect Arrows}, (STR=19)
09: Weapon Master(1): Great Cleave, Weapon of Choice: Kama
10: Weapon Master(2)
11: Weapon Master(3)
12: Weapon Master(4): STR+1, Improved Critical: Kama, (STR=20)
13: Weapon Master(5)
14: Weapon Master(6)
15: Weapon Master(7): Disarm
16: Weapon Master(8): STR+1, (STR=21)
17: Weapon Master(9)
18: Weapon Master(10): Improved Disarm
19: Monk(3)
20: Monk(4): STR+1, (STR=22)
21: Weapon Master(11): Great Strength I, (STR=23)
22: Weapon Master(12)
23: Weapon Master(13): Epic Weapon Focus: Kama
24: Monk(5): STR+1, Great Strength II, (STR=25)
25: Monk(6): {Knockdown, Improved Knockdown}
26: Weapon Master(14)
27: Weapon Master(15): Overwhelming Critical: Kama
28: Weapon Master(16): STR+1, Devastating Critical: Kama, (STR=26)
29: Weapon Master(17)
30: Weapon Master(18): Great Strength III, (STR=27)
31: Weapon Master(19): Epic Prowess
32: Weapon Master(20): STR+1, (STR=28)
33: Weapon Master(21): Great Strength IV, (STR=29)
34: Weapon Master(22): Armor Skin
35: Weapon Master(23)
36: Weapon Master(24): STR+1, Great Strength V, (STR=31)
37: Weapon Master(25): Epic Toughness I
38: Weapon Master(26)
39: Weapon Master(27): Epic Skill Focus: Discipline
40: Weapon Master(28): STR+1, Epic Toughness II, (STR=32)

Re: Dual Wield Kamas M6-F6-WM28

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:22 am
by sergeil
I would replaced improved disarm and even disarm to something else.

In fact, build is not very tough. Disarming requires few attempts. I don't think, this build will be able to keep blow long. IMHO, it is better to kill foe instead of disarm.

I think about Improved initiative and even superior initiative (epic feat). I'm not sure, but if initiative works as should, it have to give your character more chances to hit first. Because this build is ultimate damager, his attack can be first and last. As minimum, after your first attack foe have to be significantly injured.

Re: Dual Wield Kamas M6-F6-WM28

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:10 pm
by cmdisc
This certainly looks like it would put out quite a bit of damage. But is it a glass cannon? Or can you get decent AC and Saves on it?

Re: Dual Wield Kamas M6-F6-WM28

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:16 am
by Drow Arrow
cmdisc wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:10 pm This certainly looks like it would put out quite a bit of damage. But is it a glass cannon? Or can you get decent AC and Saves on it?
you're not gonna get high AC out of this build but for PvE content AC isn't super important when you get towards the higher levels/end game content.

My saves are (Fort/Reflex/Will) 22/25/18 at their base value with 428 Hit Points I am however using boots of striding +7 for that extra 7 constitution which bumps me up to 548.
sergeil wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:22 am I would replaced improved disarm and even disarm to something else.

In fact, build is not very tough. Disarming requires few attempts. I don't think, this build will be able to keep blow long. IMHO, it is better to kill foe instead of disarm.

I think about Improved initiative and even superior initiative (epic feat). I'm not sure, but if initiative works as should, it have to give your character more chances to hit first. Because this build is ultimate damager, his attack can be first and last. As minimum, after your first attack foe have to be significantly injured.
one could argue that disarming the foe would make them easier to kill by making them less of a threat BUT having said that the build doesn't rely on disarming it was just to fill a couple feat slots so they could be switch out if necessary. plus I already get KD and IKD from monk levels so didn't need feat slots for those.

Re: Dual Wield Kamas M6-F6-WM28

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:43 am
by Mask-inc
FYI, disarm doesn't work at all on any of the monsters, it's for PvP only.



Mask

Re: Dual Wield Kamas M6-F6-WM28

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:18 pm
by Drow Arrow
Mask-inc wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:43 am FYI, disarm doesn't work at all on any of the monsters, it's for PvP only.

Mask
to be honest with ya mask i'd never tried using it on the monsters. i always build with a little bit of PvP in mind. plus like i said earlier i didn't really know what else to put in there as i didn't need to use feat slots for KD or IKD so they filler and can be switched if desired ^_^.

Re: Dual Wield Kamas M6-F6-WM28

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:47 pm
by sergeil
Drow Arrow wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:18 pm i always build with a little bit of PvP in mind.
No chance .... People build separate, highly optimized builds.
This means that in most cases PvE build never win in duel with PvP build.

Re: Dual Wield Kamas M6-F6-WM28

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:00 pm
by Drow Arrow
sergeil wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:47 pm
Drow Arrow wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:18 pm i always build with a little bit of PvP in mind.
No chance .... People build separate, highly optimized builds.
This means that in most cases PvE build never win in duel with PvP build.
then don't build it bud ^_^ and as i've said several times now those feats can be replaced with anything you like.