Server future enquiry.

[Garrett]

My personal thoughts after 6 months of playing.

I like it a lot! Adding more random events would make things even more cool.

*For example a rare items merchant caravan going through the realm for limited time on random locations.

*Call to Arms random event. A PvM event where player or group of players defend a specific part of realm for some time to get good loot rewards( Sorta "defend the array" style from Dawn of War 2)

* Make end boss mechanics more dodgy. I noticed that killing for example Witch or Ancient Dragon in kazra temple is somehow exploitable and not fun at all.

[driller]

I have a random caravan guy you can encounter in the Waste. I can expand that to new locations.

I had thought about this. Kind of like Warframe defense missions, where you get rewards after each wave. Got sidetracked though.
Also, a CTF event that was brought up before.

I removed the stairs, if that is what you are talking about.
The only other I know of is the cheap blade mechanic, I will probably add a small chance to banish it

My personal thoughts after 6 months of playing.

I like it a lot! Adding more random events would make things even more cool.

*For example a rare items merchant caravan going through the realm for limited time on random locations.

*Call to Arms random event. A PvM event where player or group of players defend a specific part of realm for some time to get good loot rewards( Sorta "defend the array" style from Dawn of War 2)

* Make end boss mechanics more dodgy. I noticed that killing for example Witch or Ancient Dragon in kazra temple is somehow exploitable and not fun at all.

[itchyfunk]

What is the issue with +20?

This is one guy's opinion and I want to preface it with: I really enjoy the server and think it's overwhelmingly a great place for a number of reasons. Thank you.

I think the issue with +20AB weapons is simply the game engine's hard-cap. Basically what it means is most build combinations become discounted as soon as you are able to forge a weapon. Take bard for example: you have a song that can reasonably give +2AB and still leave you plenty of room to multi-class, and a spell that can give +2AB (battle cry) but both of those are useless with a +20 weapon because, while your character sheet shows the bonus, you don't actually get the bonus.
Clerics have spells that would boost AB but same. Then if you had a build that might say, leverage True Strike... also meaningless (but more so because of readily available immunities/high-magic/high-saves prevalent on the server since True Strike is such a short duration spell.

(Related but off-top, those [immunities etc] tend to make people ignore skills differentiation. e.g. Discipline is probably ignored by most because they don't have to worry about being KD'd... except Sway... he has to worry about it ).

But to generalize: being able to hit the hard-cap with an item negates the benefit of class abilities and in that way takes away from build differentiation. Leaving a "little room" at the top would encourage alternative builds to the fairly standard WM and AA variants we tend to see.

[driller]

In the past, I took out all immunities and made players rely on saves. Which actually what I prefer.
I also had hardcore rules(mobs do crits). Fail on 1 etc...

When I converted to EE, I went for a more casual experience. But, I am not against changing it to be more difficult.

As for the AB. Wouldn't players then create specific builds that give them the highest AB without +20?
Things really wouldn't change much would they? It would just be trading a set of classes for another right?

If players ignore discipline, make an improved disarm build. They can be pretty devastating in PvP.

Since BSK is primarily a PvE server, I am more inclined to lower AC on the mobs if anything.

What is the issue with +20?

This is one guy's opinion and I want to preface it with: I really enjoy the server and think it's overwhelmingly a great place for a number of reasons. Thank you.

I think the issue with +20AB weapons is simply the game engine's hard-cap. Basically what it means is most build combinations become discounted as soon as you are able to forge a weapon. Take bard for example: you have a song that can reasonably give +2AB and still leave you plenty of room to multi-class, and a spell that can give +2AB (battle cry) but both of those are useless with a +20 weapon because, while your character sheet shows the bonus, you don't actually get the bonus.
Clerics have spells that would boost AB but same. Then if you had a build that might say, leverage True Strike... also meaningless (but more so because of readily available immunities/high-magic/high-saves prevalent on the server since True Strike is such a short duration spell.

(Related but off-top, those [immunities etc] tend to make people ignore skills differentiation. e.g. Discipline is probably ignored by most because they don't have to worry about being KD'd... except Sway... he has to worry about it ).

But to generalize: being able to hit the hard-cap with an item negates the benefit of class abilities and in that way takes away from build differentiation. Leaving a "little room" at the top would encourage alternative builds to the fairly standard WM and AA variants we tend to see.

[itchyfunk]

It's a fair point. There will always probably be an "optimal" build no matter the configuration.

[Savagefool]

I kind of agree, I mean people would make builds with the highest ab but I don’t think it would be at the extreme level it is at now. My point for bringing it up was just balance across the board where possible, I think it’s more fun when you can actually play most builds and they are kind of viable. The +20 opens maybe.. two builds. Shifters with decent ab and rogues with melee level attack base. Both of which are welcome changes. But destroys most of the others.

The crafting is also super easy to conquer.

If they had restrictions to the classes that are unused/nerfed because of the current status quo or the hard cap was removed through nwnx or something it would be less Spikey. I would suggest getting some new tools in to change some of the hard coded things. I’d love to see new shapes or shape changes, or custom elements.

Loving the suggestions on events and areas!

Another could be a random daily/monthly quest type system:
Kill x amount of y
Collect x amount of y

Maybe for balance I was thinking.. what about some abilities to barbarian or harper scout or something that parties need at 40? Perhaps there’s a knockback from certain mobs that is in effect if a barbarian isn’t effecting that mob with his rage aura, or harper scouts ability adds vulnerabilities to a Draco Lich, etc etc.

More reasons to play at 40 and more balance to some other classes and I would explode ahah!

Also, I reiterate what itchy said; this server is amazing, it might seem like I’m picking at stuff but in all honesty if nothing changes I’ll still play and love playing here. Thanks for all you do driller and co.

[Cornflower]

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Since BSK is primarily a PvE server, I am more inclined to lower AC on the mobs if anything.

Yes please, this will also make other builds than the usual viable. Especially if you drop the AC on some bosses you need to complete quests. *cough* blood cult *cough, cough*

[driller]

I will go ahead an do that. If you can, give me a list of the worst offenders and I will get them first.

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Since BSK is primarily a PvE server, I am more inclined to lower AC on the mobs if anything.

Yes please, this will also make other builds than the usual viable. Especially if you drop the AC on some bosses you need to complete quests. *cough* blood cult *cough, cough*

[Caylin]

Blood cult and Witch for starters.

[driller]

Try now.

[Cornflower]

I will go ahead an do that. If you can, give me a list of the worst offenders and I will get them first.

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Since BSK is primarily a PvE server, I am more inclined to lower AC on the mobs if anything.

Yes please, this will also make other builds than the usual viable. Especially if you drop the AC on some bosses you need to complete quests. *cough* blood cult *cough, cough*

I think the important thing is the quest areas, so Blood Cult is the most obvious.
I'll go test as soon as I have a chance.
Thank you!

[Cornflower]

Try now.

Well. I tried both with my fully equipped tank (DD with extra everything) and my fully equipped WM. Can't say I saw much difference, still couldn't get through. Now, bear in mind I haven't played for a few months and I'm beyond rusty. I think someone else needs to test and give you a verdict.

[driller]

What's your AB?

Try now.

Well. I tried both with my fully equipped tank (DD with extra everything) and my fully equipped WM. Can't say I saw much difference, still couldn't get through. Now, bear in mind I haven't played for a few months and I'm beyond rusty. I think someone else needs to test and give you a verdict.

[Yunim]

Try now.

Well. I tried both with my fully equipped tank (DD with extra everything) and my fully equipped WM. Can't say I saw much difference, still couldn't get through. Now, bear in mind I haven't played for a few months and I'm beyond rusty. I think someone else needs to test and give you a verdict.

I just tried Bloodcult with my WM and it seems like Tar's AC has been lowered from 86 to 68. I only tried once though so I might be wrong on the exact value.

[Cornflower]

What's your AB?

Try now.

Well. I tried both with my fully equipped tank (DD with extra everything) and my fully equipped WM. Can't say I saw much difference, still couldn't get through. Now, bear in mind I haven't played for a few months and I'm beyond rusty. I think someone else needs to test and give you a verdict.

WM has (fully buffed): AB 77, AC 67
Tank has (fully buffed): AB 67, AC 67 and lots of resistance (DD26).

Note that I could hit the mobs and the first mini-boss (forget his name, he's in the entry room), just couldn't survive. Never got to the Big Boss....
Again, rusty....