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Forger/crafter toon

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Hello to all, i have 3 toons on this server (Deegolas Zoolmyr, Elvana foglia verde and Elvana Battle Witch).
Now i want make a forger/crafter toon, but i'm not expert on this.
Can tell me some info how to create.

Excuse my bad english!
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Re: Forger/crafter toon

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i asked in game
RDD/BARD int based
skill focus and epic....
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Re: Forger/crafter toon

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I've been working on a support bard build for the past few days. I'll post it here when I finish for others to see and critique. I tried to make a build that could do okay solo, but to get to the magical 80 it won't be possible without buffing up the charisma for a decent bard song. So it will only be able to level in a party. Stay tuned.
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Re: Forger/crafter toon

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Crafter-extraordinaire! Only need to buff INT by 10 via gear/spells, and you get to 80. Have fun!

Bard(30), Red Dragon Disciple(10), Human

STR: 12 (20)
DEX: 8
CON: 8 (10)
WIS: 8
INT: 16 (24)
CHA: 18 (30)

Human: (Quick to Master)
01: Bard(1): Curse Song, Armor Proficiency Heavy
02: Bard(2)
03: Bard(3): Weapon Proficiency Martial
04: Bard(4): CHA+1, (CHA=19)
05: Bard(5)
06: Red Dragon Disciple(1): Extend Spell
07: Red Dragon Disciple(2): (STR=14)
08: Red Dragon Disciple(3): CHA+1, (CHA=20)
09: Red Dragon Disciple(4): Skill Focus: Craft Armor, (STR=16)
10: Red Dragon Disciple(5)
11: Red Dragon Disciple(6)
12: Red Dragon Disciple(7): CHA+1, Skill Focus: Perform, (CON=10), (CHA=21)
13: Red Dragon Disciple(8)
14: Red Dragon Disciple(9): (INT=18)
15: Red Dragon Disciple(10): Skill Focus: Craft Weapon, {Darkvision}, (STR=20), (CHA=23)
16: Bard(6): CHA+1, (CHA=24)
17: Bard(7)
18: Bard(8): Maximize Spell
19: Bard(9)
20: Bard(10): CHA+1, (CHA=25)
21: Bard(11): Great Charisma I, (CHA=26)
22: Bard(12)
23: Bard(13)
24: Bard(14): CHA+1, Great Charisma II, (CHA=28)
25: Bard(15)
26: Bard(16)
27: Bard(17): Great Charisma III, (CHA=29)
28: Bard(18): CHA+1, (CHA=30)
29: Bard(19)
30: Bard(20): Great Intelligence I, (INT=19)
31: Bard(21)
32: Bard(22): INT+1, (INT=20)
33: Bard(23): Great Intelligence II, Lasting Inspiration, (INT=21)
34: Bard(24)
35: Bard(25)
36: Bard(26): INT+1, Great Intelligence III, Epic Skill Focus: Perform, (INT=23)
37: Bard(27)
38: Bard(28)
39: Bard(29): Epic Skill Focus: Craft Armor, Epic Skill Focus: Craft Weapon
40: Bard(30): INT+1, (INT=24)

Hitpoints: 264
Skillpoints: 365
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 20/23/19
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +9
BAB: 24
AB (max, naked): 29 (melee), 23 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 21/32
Spell Casting: Bard(6)
Alignment Changes: 0

Appraise 22(29), Concentration 43(43), Craft Armor 43(63), Craft Weapon 43(63), Lore 8(45), Perform 43(66), Spellcraft 41(48), Taunt 43(53), Tumble 40(39), UMD 39(49)


01: Concentration(4), Craft Armor(4), Craft Weapon(4), Lore(4), Perform(4), Spellcraft(3), Taunt(1), Tumble(4), UMD(4),
02: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Lore(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(1), Save(1),
03: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Lore(1), Perform(1), Taunt(2), Save(2),
04: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Lore(1), Perform(1), Taunt(2), Save(3),
05: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Lore(1), Perform(1), Taunt(2), Save(4),
06: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Save(7),
07: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Save(10),
08: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Save(13),
09: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Save(16),
10: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Save(19),
11: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Save(22),
12: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Save(25),
13: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Save(28),
14: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Save(31),
15: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Save(35),
16: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(11), Tumble(15), UMD(15),
17: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
18: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
19: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
20: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
21: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
22: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
23: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
24: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
25: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
26: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
27: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
28: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
29: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
30: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
31: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
32: Appraise(1), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
33: Appraise(1), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
34: Appraise(1), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
35: Appraise(1), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
36: Appraise(2), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
37: Appraise(3), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1), Tumble(1),
38: Appraise(4), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1),
39: Appraise(4), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1),
40: Appraise(5), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1),
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Re: Forger/crafter toon

Post by Slinthius Archer »

This one gets to 79 craft with 10INT from gear/spells (So you'd need an item to put it over 80), but adds some fighter to the mix to make leveling a bit easier. I still recommend playing with a party since your a Bard!

PS. You can pick your weapon of choice. I just choose Scimitar below. Enjoy!

Bard(23), Fighter(7), Red Dragon Disciple(10), Human

STR: 12 (20)
DEX: 8
CON: 8 (10)
WIS: 8
INT: 16 (22)
CHA: 18 (28)

Human: (Quick to Master)
01: Bard(1): Curse Song, Skill Focus: Perform
02: Fighter(1): Weapon Focus: Scimitar
03: Fighter(2): Blind Fight, Knockdown
04: Fighter(3): INT+1, (INT=17)
05: Fighter(4): Weapon Specialization: Scimitar
06: Red Dragon Disciple(1): Skill Focus: Craft Weapon
07: Red Dragon Disciple(2): (STR=14)
08: Red Dragon Disciple(3): INT+1, (INT=18)
09: Red Dragon Disciple(4): Skill Focus: Craft Armor, (STR=16)
10: Red Dragon Disciple(5)
11: Red Dragon Disciple(6)
12: Red Dragon Disciple(7): INT+1, Improved Critical: Scimitar, (CON=10), (INT=19)
13: Red Dragon Disciple(8)
14: Red Dragon Disciple(9): (INT=21)
15: Red Dragon Disciple(10): Improved Knockdown, {Darkvision}, (STR=20), (CHA=20)
16: Bard(2): INT+1, (INT=22)
17: Bard(3)
18: Bard(4): Extend Spell
19: Bard(5)
20: Bard(6): CHA+1, (CHA=21)
21: Fighter(5): Epic Weapon Focus: Scimitar
22: Fighter(6): Epic Weapon Specialization: Scimitar
23: Bard(7)
24: Bard(8): CHA+1, Maximize Spell, (CHA=22)
25: Bard(9)
26: Bard(10)
27: Bard(11): Great Charisma I, (CHA=23)
28: Bard(12): CHA+1, (CHA=24)
29: Bard(13)
30: Bard(14): Great Charisma II, (CHA=25)
31: Bard(15)
32: Bard(16): CHA+1, (CHA=26)
33: Bard(17): Epic Skill Focus: Perform
34: Bard(18)
35: Bard(19)
36: Bard(20): CHA+1, Lasting Inspiration, (CHA=27)
37: Bard(21)
38: Bard(22)
39: Fighter(7): Epic Skill Focus: Craft Armor
40: Bard(23): CHA+1, Epic Skill Focus: Craft Weapon, (CHA=28)

Hitpoints: 292
Skillpoints: 394
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 23/22/18
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +9
BAB: 25
AB (max, naked): 33 (melee), 24 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 21/32
Spell Casting: Bard(6)
Alignment Changes: 0

Appraise 43(49), Concentration 43(43), Craft Armor 43(62), Craft Weapon 43(62), Heal 6(5), Lore 8(37), Perform 43(65), Spellcraft 43(49), Taunt 43(52), Tumble 40(39), UMD 39(48)


01: Concentration(4), Craft Armor(4), Craft Weapon(4), Lore(4), Perform(4), Spellcraft(3), Taunt(1), Tumble(4), UMD(4),
02: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Lore(1), Save(2),
03: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Lore(1), Save(4),
04: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Lore(1), Save(6),
05: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Lore(1), Save(8),
06: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Spellcraft(2), Save(9),
07: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Spellcraft(1), Save(11),
08: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Spellcraft(1), Save(14),
09: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Spellcraft(1), Save(17),
10: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Spellcraft(1), Save(20),
11: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Spellcraft(1), Save(23),
12: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Spellcraft(1), Save(26),
13: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Spellcraft(1), Save(29),
14: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Spellcraft(1), Save(32),
15: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Spellcraft(1), Save(36),
16: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(11), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(15), UMD(15),
17: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(2),
18: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(4),
19: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(6),
20: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(8),
21: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Save(14),
22: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Save(20),
23: Appraise(3), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(7), Spellcraft(3), Taunt(6), Tumble(3), UMD(3), Save(3),
24: Appraise(3), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(2),
25: Appraise(3), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(1),
26: Appraise(3), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
27: Appraise(2), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
28: Appraise(2), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
29: Appraise(2), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(2), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
30: Appraise(3), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
31: Appraise(3), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
32: Appraise(3), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
33: Appraise(3), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
34: Appraise(3), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
35: Appraise(3), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
36: Appraise(3), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
37: Appraise(1), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(4), Tumble(1),
38: Appraise(1), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(1), Spellcraft(1), Taunt(3), Save(2),
39: Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Heal(6), Save(2),
40: Appraise(2), Concentration(1), Craft Armor(1), Craft Weapon(1), Perform(2), Spellcraft(4), Taunt(2),
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Re: Forger/crafter toon

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This is the crafter I use since I am 99% a solo player I needed something I could solo with. (She does fine in party play as well of course) I'm too lazy to type the skill list out sorry. But its pretty self explanatory.

Human, Any nonlawful alignment, all level up stats go into Str, Will need +12 int, +12 Cha and a +12 performance from gear to hit 81 Craft armor and weapons when bard song is running.

Starting Stats: Str 16 Dex 8 Con 12 Wis 8 Int 16 Cha 14
Final Stats: Str 34 Dex 8 Con 14 Wis 8 Int 18 Cha 18
Bard 26 Fighter 4 Rdd 10
1 B1 Artist, Curse Song
2 F1 Weapon Focus Scimitar
3 F2 Skill focus Perform, Blind Fight
4 F3
5 F4 Weapon Specialization Scimitar
6 R1 Skill Focus Craft Armor
7 R2
8 R3
9 R4 Skill Focus Craft Weapon
10 R5
11 R6
12 R7 Improved Critical Scimitar
13 R8
14 R9
15 B2 Still Spell
16 R10
17 B3
18 B4 **Free feat: Toughness or Linger song recommended.
19 B5
20 B6
21 B7 Epic Weapon Focus Scimitar
22 B8
23 B9
24 B10 Epic Prowess
25 B11
26 B12
27 B13 Armor Skin
28 B14
29 B15
30 B16 Epic Skill Focus Perform
31 B17
32 B18
33 B19 Great Charisma 1
34 B20
35 B21
36 B22 Lasting Inspiration
37 B23 Epic skill focus Craft Weapon
38 B24
39 B25 Great Charisma
40 B26 Epic Skill focus craft Armor
Last edited by Ming on Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Forger/crafter toon

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Love all that STR! I see you take Still Spell at 15 on RDD; is that legal? Won't let me select that in the spreadsheet so you might need to snag that at 18. Otherwise, very nice.
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Re: Forger/crafter toon

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Slinthius Archer wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:14 am Love all that STR! I see you take Still Spell at 15 on RDD; is that legal? Won't let me select that in the spreadsheet so you might need to snag that at 18. Otherwise, very nice.
Looks like a sequencing mistake when I wrote it out, as I went off memory. So 15 should be bard lvl 2, and 16 should be RDD 10. This fixes the feat sequence.
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Re: Forger/crafter toon

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Hey all, old nwn 1 player turned EE newbie here. I’ve been browsing the forum to glean some ideas for a potential ‘crafter’ build, given the prominence of crafting in Blackstone.

Judging by what’s been posted, the aim of the game is to get Craft Armour and Craft Weapon skill to 80, which means some sort of high level Bard with Epic Skill Focus feats is probably the way to go. There seems to be a range of posted builds varying from ‘All Out Crafting Stats but not much Combat Power’ to ‘All Out Combat Power with items required to make up for lack of Crafting Stats’.

So with a bit of thought and number crunching, I believe I have a nice compromise between stat focus and combat power. Here’s my crack at a “Harmonious Blacksmith”, played from the perspective of someone with little server knowledge or starting equipment:


Bard(25), Fighter(5), Red Dragon Disciple(10), Human

STR: 14 (22)
DEX: 8
CON: 14 (16)
WIS: 8
INT: 16 (24)
CHA: 15 (22)

Human: (Quick to Master)
01: Bard(1): Artist, Curse Song
02: Fighter(1): Weapon Focus: Scimitar
03: Bard(2): Still Spell
04: Bard(3): INT+1, (INT=17)
05: Bard(4)
06: Bard(5): Knockdown
07: Bard(6)
08: Bard(7): INT+1, (INT=18)
09: Bard(8): Empower Spell
10: Bard(9)
11: Bard(10)
12: Bard(11): INT+1, Improved Critical: Scimitar, (INT=19)
13: Fighter(2): Blind Fight
14: Fighter(3)
15: Fighter(4): Skill Focus: Perform, Weapon Specialization: Scimitar
16: Bard(12): INT+1, (INT=20)
17: Bard(13)
18: Bard(14): Skill Focus: Craft Weapon
19: Bard(15)
20: Bard(16): INT+1, (INT=21)
21: Red Dragon Disciple(1): Epic Weapon Focus: Scimitar
22: Red Dragon Disciple(2): (STR=16)
23: Red Dragon Disciple(3)
24: Fighter(5): INT+1, Epic Weapon Specialization: Scimitar, (INT=22)
25: Red Dragon Disciple(4): (STR=18)
26: Red Dragon Disciple(5)
27: Red Dragon Disciple(6): Great Charisma I, (CHA=16)
28: Red Dragon Disciple(7): CHA+1, (CON=16), (CHA=17)
29: Red Dragon Disciple(8)
30: Red Dragon Disciple(9): Skill Focus: Craft Armor, (INT=24)
31: Red Dragon Disciple(10): {Darkvision}, (STR=22), (CHA=19)
32: Bard(17): CHA+1, (CHA=20)
33: Bard(18): Epic Skill Focus: Perform
34: Bard(19)
35: Bard(20)
36: Bard(21): CHA+1, Lasting Inspiration, (CHA=21)
37: Bard(22)
38: Bard(23): Epic Skill Focus: Craft Weapon
39: Bard(24): Epic Skill Focus: Craft Armor
40: Bard(25): CHA+1, (CHA=22)

Hitpoints: 404
Skillpoints: 399
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 22/20/20
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +5
BAB: 26
AB (max, naked): 35 (melee), 25 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 21/32
Spell Casting: Bard(6)
Alignment Changes: 0

Skills:

**Appraise 43(50)**, Concentration 43(46), Craft Armor 43(63), Craft Weapon 43(63), **Discipline 43(49)**, Lore 8(40), Perform 43(64), **Spellcraft 20(27)**, Taunt 43(49), Tumble 40(39), **UMD 30(36)**.

Lore 8 before level 20, and priority placed on skills not marked with **this**.

**These skill values are currently flexible, as I have no idea what skills are effective/required or not. I based these values off of what’s been posted here so far.


Build Notes:

Decent all-round starting stats, 2nd level Fighter for Proficiencies, then indexes into Bard to get Improved Invisibility ASAP. Gets lots of Combat feats pre-epic, and is 16 bard / 4 Fighter at level 20. Which means 4 attacks per round! [Come on fellow powerbuilders, how could no one have cottoned onto this trick yet … :P ]

Still Spell and Empower spell are there for Ability buffs [can get up to +7 from Empowered Bulls Strength for e.g.] and casting spells in Armour and/or at another spell level. Once into Epic levels, it’s RDD 10 for all the nice stat boosts and then Bard to finish off, picking up Epic Weapon Specialization along the way [I’m an ‘Offense is the Best Defense’ kind of player so I felt this feat was appropriate].

The end result at least from an offensive standpoint is 46 AB with +12 Strength [however attainable that is] and a Greater Magic Weapon’d Scimitar, 50 with Song and War Cry, 56 with Curse [Song pushes Perform past 75 for -6ac Curse], 62 with Taunt. And Blind Fight/Knockdown/Darkness to back all this up!

Crafting Skill Wise: Perform Skill with no skill items ranges from 65-70 [i.e. +12 to +13 skills], depending on how much Charisma has been boosted between 2-12 [Empowered Eagle's Splendor should help here]. Base Crafting Skills sit at 63, which means Song at minimum boosts this to 75. After that, another 5 skills points can be gained either from +10 Intelligence [requires an intelligence item], +8 Intelligence and 70 Perform [requires an intelligence item and +12 Charisma] or +6 Intelligence and 75 Perform [requires +12 Charisma and a +5 Perform item].


Anyway: There’s me crack at a crafter. Now I just need some time to play it, which certainly isn’t available at present with it being the end of uni semester lol.
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hmm, so another build without any spot or listen, you folks do know that there is pick pocketers around, right.

Don't mind me in fact, my rogue is quite happy with that :lol: :twisted:



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Grieving pickpocketers are a thing on this server eh? Will keep your username in mind and be sure to prioritise boring Clerics and Mages in the future .😛
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One more crack at a crafting character!

Bard(26), Fighter(4), Red Dragon Disciple(10), Human


STR: 16 (26)
DEX: 8
CON: 12 (14)
WIS: 8
INT: 16 (26)
CHA: 14 (16)

Human: (Quick to Master)
01: Bard(1): Artist, Power Attack
02: Fighter(1): Weapon Focus: Scimitar
03: Bard(2): Cleave
04: Bard(3): STR+1, (STR=17)
05: Bard(4)
06: Bard(5): Still Spell
07: Bard(6)
08: Bard(7): STR+1, (STR=18)
09: Bard(8): Curse Song
10: Bard(9)
11: Bard(10)
12: Bard(11): INT+1, Improved Critical: Scimitar, (INT=17)
13: Fighter(2): **Insert Feat Here**
14: Red Dragon Disciple(1)
15: Red Dragon Disciple(2): Skill Focus: Craft Weapon, (STR=20)
16: Red Dragon Disciple(3): INT+1, (INT=18)
17: Red Dragon Disciple(4): (STR=22)
18: Bard(12): Skill Focus: Perform
19: Fighter(3)
20: Fighter(4): INT+1, Great Cleave, (INT=19)
21: Red Dragon Disciple(5): Epic Weapon Focus: Scimitar
22: Red Dragon Disciple(6)
23: Red Dragon Disciple(7): (CON=14)
24: Red Dragon Disciple(8): INT+1, Epic Prowess, (INT=20)
25: Red Dragon Disciple(9): (INT=22)
26: Red Dragon Disciple(10): {Darkvision}, (STR=26), (CHA=16)
27: Bard(13): Overwhelming Critical: Scimitar
28: Bard(14): INT+1, (INT=23)
29: Bard(15)
30: Bard(16): Devastating Critical: Scimitar
31: Bard(17)
32: Bard(18): INT+1, (INT=24)
33: Bard(19): Epic Skill Focus: Perform
34: Bard(20)
35: Bard(21)
36: Bard(22): INT+1, Lasting Inspiration, (INT=25)
37: Bard(23): Epic Skill Focus: Craft Weapon
38: Bard(24)
39: Bard(25): Skill Focus: Craft Armor
40: Bard(26): INT+1, Epic Skill Focus: Craft Armor, (INT=26)

Hitpoints: 360
Skillpoints: 383
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 24/22/19
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +3
BAB: 26
AB (max, naked): 38 (melee), 26 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 21/32
Spell Casting: Bard(6)
Alignment Changes: 0

**Knockdown or Blind Fight are good candidates for this feat. I chose Knockdown**


Appraise 43(51), Concentration 30(32), Craft Armor 43(64), Craft Weapon 43(64), Lore 8(42), Perform 43(61), Spellcraft 10(18), Taunt 43(46), Tumble 40(39), UMD 37(40), remaining skillpoints 43.


Concentration, Lore, Perform, Taunt, Tumble and UMD take priority early. 43 skill points are reserved until level 40, depending on whether or not Discipline is determined to be a required skill. If it is deemed required, Discipline 43 is taken. Is it is not, then Listen 43 is taken instead [Hi Mask!].


Build Info:

Typical Battle Bard, similar to the prior build. Still Spell, Scimitar and Heavy Armour, that sort of thing. No Weapon Spec on this build, though weapon damage shouldn't be too much of an issue regardless [that and the build gets something else to make up for it...].

2nd Level Fighter for Proficiencies, then Bard 11 ASAP for Improved Invisibility, then Fighter and RDD before 12th bard at 20. Gets 16 BAB at level 20 [4 attacks yay], before taking RDD to 10 [at level 26], and finishing off with lots of Bard for Lasting Inspiration and decent song.

Craft Skill unbuffed at level 40 is 64. Song with 61 perform [+11 skills] raises Craft Skill to 75. The remaining 5 points for 80 Craft skills can be attained from: +10 intelligence, +8 intelligence and 65 perform [+12], +6 intelligence and 70 perform[+13], or +4 intelligence and 75 perform[+14].


End Result:

44 AB with Max Strength and Mundane Weapon [49 with +5 sword, 53 with song/war cry, 59 curse, 65 taunt], Lasting Inspiration, 80 Craft Weapon and Armour with little gear investment, and Devastating Critical Scimitar.

Who said Crafters can't fight. :twisted:
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Hi !
I was wondering why some builds start with Bard and not Fighter for better survival ?

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Humiz wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:54 am Hi !
I was wondering why some builds start with Bard and not Fighter for better survival ?

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Hey Humiz! I can answer that with reference to the build that I posted above yours (I.e the one I used for my current master crafter toon).

Bards get more skill points than Fighter, have access to the Artist feat to begin with, and also start with a few useful scrolls such as Mage Armour and Summon Creature 1 (which are spells that they go on to learn at their 2nd Bard Level). So Bard is taken at level 1. On my build, I take Fighter on the 2nd Level after that for the Weapon and Armour Proficiencies.

Bards also get access to Greater Magic Weapon and Keen from level 7 (very handy spells what with the ILR and Socketed Weapon availability here), but more importantly they get Improved Invisibility at Level 10 (huuuuge anti-physical damage buff) , with a guaranteed spell slot for it at Level 11. On my build, after taking the Fighter Level, I then rush Bard to 11 to get all the extra goodies from Bard ASAP.

I find generally that the lower HP ends up getting offset by extra spell buffs, AC from song, and concealment at level 11 Bard; HP doesn’t matter so much if you aren’t being hit nearly as often. Level 11 Bard Song is nice for cursing as well, as you can start lowering opponent AC with it as well as AB and Damage.

I would say that going more Bard early does make the build a bit susceptible to Spellcasters blowing you up what with the lower HP, but I tend to try and avoid fighting those at early levels where I can anyway in favour of melee opponents. That, or I try to get crafty when fighting spellcasters and use things like Invisibility to throw them off and then charge back in with a Knockdown or similar, which more Bard arguably helps you do if you take something like Still Spell early and thus can cast Invisibility in armour on the fly.

Hope that answers your question! Happy to provide more info if you need it as well, I like Bards and have played them a fair bit over the years. =)
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Re: Forger/crafter toon

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Thanks for you'r quick answer The Flying Rodent.
Now I understand why, thank you very much.
I was trying to make one my self, but for some reason I got " there was a problem with creating you'r character ".
So I have to try later.
And thanks all of you that share you'r builds :P

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