Shout Channel

[Mask-inc]

*Bow to Cappy* i concur, turn it off.


Thanks


Mask

[Fenrip]

Yes, please turn it off. My favorite is "I have a red socket gem for a green one" That is what the guy near the portal is for.

In response to the other posts:

Forge stone for a portal book?!? You know how many of those I have given away in my time? Sadly, both forgies and books LOL This time around I have not gone after the Shadow Devil. I hear he is Shadow Devil 2.0 and a little more harderer than he was. I am sure I'll figure it out.

As for the party raise thing -- I remember someone sending something like this:

"The (wind, ancient rockface, desert sand, temple stones, etc) bring the sound of a soul leaving its material body. Word reaches your ears that (birds, spiders, snakes) are noticed leaving (insert area here) in droves to escape the desperate cry"

A little lame, sure but a little more clever than. "Dude, can someone come rez me?" If I can point my finger or sing a song and kill things, my soul can call out to the world.

[shadowflame]

Id like to think were mature enough to be able to keep the shout channel active, perhaps it could be added under the server rules section as a new rule?

we have alot of older decent players on that can remind any new or naughty players that the shout channel is not for metagaming.

A name & Shame system could be implemented^^

[driller]

I could add a voting system or at least give a few veteran players police powers to silence or jail unruly players.

-driller

Id like to think were mature enough to be able to keep the shout channel active, perhaps it could be added under the server rules section as a new rule?

we have alot of older decent players on that can remind any new or naughty players that the shout channel is not for metagaming.

A name & Shame system could be implemented^^

[arwan]

thank you for sanity.. +1 to both drillers post and shadowflame above mine.

[Mask-inc]

I never said i was still sane and i am still for simply turning it off for everyone except the dm's.
Much simplier solution then having to remind peoples, who sometime get offuscate, and play cops.

My 2 cents.

Thanks


Mask

[Capt Cliff]

I could add a voting system or at least give a few veteran players police powers to silence or jail unruly players.

-driller

Id like to think were mature enough to be able to keep the shout channel active, perhaps it could be added under the server rules section as a new rule?

we have alot of older decent players on that can remind any new or naughty players that the shout channel is not for metagaming.

A name & Shame system could be implemented^^

Ah but when the cat's away the mice (rats) will play!! I assume the shout channel was available on NWN2/BSK2, yes?? The simplest solution is to go back to the way it was before on BSK1, shout is for DM's only. If you want to try a police system ... Iguess but it will become tedious for that policing individual to be sending tells to this person or that telling them not to do this or that. The threat of jailing must be real too, and it must be for not just a couple of minutes. But still simpler, with less hassle and no anamosity between players being created to just turn it off.

[shadowflame]

lets not get this blown out of proportion, its not as if the shout channel has been constantly abused, in fact its been mis-used just a few times, and these few occasions have been reported.

I dont feel that a few veteran players would have much trouble upholding the server rules on the shout channel.

in fact i love the idea of a few Blackstone Keep jailers^^

[Axe Madness]

i don't see any reason why we need shout channel i'm already used it to as a dm thing for announcements and events basically when i see the yellow text little flag goes up hey maybe i should maybe look at that later.

only takes few moments to scroll the list of maybe 20 or less people on the player list to find said person and or form a party that doesn't take long either.

and if DM isn't answering the dm channel probably means they are not there or don't feel like chatting. i think some people want this for contacting of DMs and raises.

[arwan]

im with shadowflame on this.. (as weird as that is as we seem to but heads here and get along well in game LMAO) from what i have seen the channel has not been so overly drastically abused that it should be shut down.. instead i would be in favor of a police force if you will that could do things to... detour.. someone from using shout, maybe some way to mute an offender. jail them for a set amount of time. lower there XP gain maybe.. or if all else fails you could punt them for a duration from the server. all that of course if they didn't first heed some warning.

[Axe Madness]

im with shadowflame on this.. (as weird as that is as we seem to but heads here and get along well in game LMAO) from what i have seen the channel has not been so overly drastically abused that it should be shut down.. instead i would be in favor of a police force if you will that could do things to... detour.. someone from using shout, maybe some way to mute an offender. jail them for a set amount of time. lower there XP gain maybe.. or if all else fails you could punt them for a duration from the server. all that of course if they didn't first heed some warning.

sounds like alot of hassle with no pay off

[arwan]

the pay off for me anyway.. would be the knowledge that i made someone somewhere happy.. and it would make me giggle as well if someone didn't listen to a warning and allowed someone to flex the power. as that would be most foolish.

[Capt Cliff]

Axe is right, it's way too distracting. The shout channel has and general on most servers is used for DM announcements. Having it for people to asked to be raised or they are selling town portal books (meta-gaming) or trading stuff like a red for a green or a portal is open to a shrine rune stone come get your free xp is bovine scatology.

An I feel it is being used way to much ... at least 6 to 8 time a reset.

[arwan]

im sorry but i have to laugh at that being used to much LMAO blasphemy my lord there using it once every (according to you) half hour to 45 minutes. personally i have seen it used.. maybe 1 time when i get on.. usually not at all.

LOL i can only picture if some parent had there kid speak one sentence every hour how that would go over..

im sorry maybe its just me but you know.. people talking really doesn't hurt my feeling of immersion even if it is meta gaming.. or not.. seriously. if it was like people were using shout so often that it was basically what people were using to just communicate well.. i to would be all over shutting it down.. but there not. a very few people every so often using it (and usually just trying to be nice to other players using it.. and not meaning any harm) really wont bother me.. in all honesty.. if im going to be truthful.. i find it hilarious that it makes people upset.. what would you do if it were PNP... and the guy next to you just stated.. hey.. if you go right down that hall. there is going to be a mob.. oh and there CR7.

i do play PNP and these things happen from time to time.. and it really doesn't bother anyone .. at least the people i play with.. as we can either do one of two things on our own without i dont know... what ever it is you want to call it that most are doing here. we can 1 ignore it and do what we were going to do anyway. which is what usually happens anyway.. or we can do 2.. listen and act accordingly... which isn't always the best option either.

besides that as far as im concerned the meta gaming defense is more a cop out than anything. if your going to kill it for meta gaming you might as well kill the party chat as well.. as its at least 100X worse. how many times has anyone been raised because they asked for it in some fashion using party chat. then we can bring the argument that there should not be any party information for anyone not in your immediate area.. IE if the player is in another area you should not be able to see there portrait. after all its meta gaming if they die and you then go somewhere to raise them.. how would a REAL person know they had fallen.

again im sorry.. and maybe its just me.. but meta gaming is a for gone conclusion as far as i can see.. as long as there is any feesable way.. its going to happen.. weather or not the channel dies. again to me that argument can be equated to if johnny takes your ball and you go to mommy to make johnny give back your ball.. like a 3 year old would do.

so while i think or thought.. would be a better word. that we could all be adult enough to not let something as trivial as person A said something on the shout channel OMG. not get to us. it to me any way is obvious that this is not so.. that person A saying anything on the shout channel is OMG blasphemy and i cant deal with it... SO

as much as i oppose it.. you might as well kill the shout channel.. as it seems it will help some people out.

heck might want to kill it for the DM's to as there announcements can be seen as some type of meta gaming.. after all.. the wind doesn't really have a voice.. how would you really know in game.. better to use the forums for such things. which can be seen as another form of meta gaming... dang guess it never really ends does it.

[Dan8145]

I can see a mix in opinions here. Let's just agree to disagree eh? In the end, it's up to Driller et al to decide if the shout channel should be kept open

Play nice ^^