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Post by NIP »

No matter what type of character you play you are bound to have some type of problems.

And now to the heart of the matter.
We need haste items for all those non caster players out there other wise
there is simply no point in participating in pvp battels at all if the mages/clerics can run cirkels around you and cast a spell every now and then.

But if the noncasters will be denied haste witch is realy a drawback why would we allow the casters that are so
weak!!! magic bags to make up for their shortcommings.
I mean casters here in a lowmagic worlds is already realy powerfull despite their lack of strength ( they can always improve their str by casting of bullstrength.)

And i dont agree with the friend theory given by Starchild ( no permahasting. If you want persistent haste go to a cleric. Make friends. Form parties. This should be as party friendly a server possible).
If that where the case get a friend to carry your loot and noo bags is neded.

So Pleace bring both the bags and the haste items we need both of them diffrent play styles need diffrent items i sure
hope this isent a server just for casters because if i cant beat them i might joine them hehe.
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haste items are fine with limits like once a day or whatever. Permahaste on the other hand is unecessary. Casters dont even have permahaste. I still stand by my statement no matter how much its ridiculed. This is a party server. Act like it. And yes there are times where I have friends carry things that I cant hold. Not only that my suggestion for bags was 20% - 40% wieght. I did not ask for any bags of holdings. I also do not think those should be available. Therefore dont use my suggestion about bags to help debunk this permahaste issue.
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Post by Humiz »

I agree with NIP.
Why must we all make builds whith certain professions (Duelist, Warpriest, Cleric etc.) to get haste ?

When it comes to bags, I think 2 bags at character creation and 1 bag as a quest reward.

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Post by M-A-D »

Haste haste and haste ! 1 / day not dispellable (if it works for several hours :P) is fine but also is permanent haste for me. Party server? my thought was everyone was welcome to play here the way they think it fun to play aslong they behaviour is ok? ? ?

I just say all should be able get haste of no one at all (or perma expedious retreat could be a good option so one attack and one ac is left out)! Have seen too much running contests in PvP. It was nice dealt with from the server I come from. All could get haste but not monks they had to take blinding speed feat but lateron there was an item for them so they could use this feat an aditional time / rest.

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Post by M-A-D »

NIP wrote!
If that where the case get a friend to carry your loot and noo bags is neded
Wooo! that was the best I've heard this week. Party friendy servar! hhaa "laughing and crying in joy" what a supreme counter answer. You got my vote at all times mate!

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well considering Casters dont get access to persistant haste until lvl 17 or so i dont see why a mellee character should have access to a haste item until the same lvl.

And yes all playing styles are accepted here providing you understand the rules, but personally i play nwn2 online purely because i want to socialise and enjoy this game with others. I like PvP, Party adventuring , RP, Crafting, Oh & yes! i like to grind xp sometimes too!! its not a sin.

And lets not forget Haste & Bags are not the top priority thats being worked on here. Personally im Glad that Driller has listened to our other posts and is adressing the issues raised in them, such as Crafting sytem, Epic areas, New Quests & quest rewards.

And in Starchilds defence i agree that the concept of online play is to focus on players making friends and joining a party, This server is in the rp section for a reason!! other playing styles are tolerated here not focused on. BSK1 was renound for its quality of rpr's and i have already seen some nice rpr's here also.
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Dont get me wrong im not here for the pvp its just that i think its a bit slow and alot of running abaut
when i try to train new characters.

I must say im one of the old bsk players that where around in the olden times and some of the best role play sessions
i ever had on bsk was helping crafting for new players i practicly crafted for half the server and had a god time doing it.

Along with my goblin i played and the vampire sorcerer that i accidently put on fire running between the temple and the portal room during daylight witch was awsome.

i was not trying to make this a caster non caster post it just turned out that way im sorry if i upset anyone in my
thoughts here.

I wish you all plenty of loot and may there be forgestones in the future *grins*
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Re: item requests

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All the arguments supporting permanently hasted gear seem to allude to its pvp benefits. Because its "fair" since some classes don't get access to haste.

Ok. Well let's have items with Hide in Plain Sight, too. After all, it's only fair since theres only two classes that get that feat right? And you know what, Epic Precision should be on items too. Because all the caster classes (well, except shadow shaman) get access to crit immunities. Let's be FAIR, in the spirit of PVP!

Haha if that isn't the dumbest reason to want something. PvP is supposed to be competitive. You can't tell me someone can beat you just by having haste while you don't? Maybe your build has a HUGE weakness you need to compensate for. But instead of innovating and maybe multiclassing your build to include haste, you think it's only fair that you should be handed haste gear on a silver platter. That's not the spirit of pvp.

And in my opinion, haste isn't even all that great. Unless you have perfect two weapon fighting (so you get two additional attacks instead of one), I don't see any huge reason for haste. Movespeed bonus? Lots of classes (barbarian, neverwinter nine, monk, druid, ranger, sacred fist, stormlord) get natural speed boosts or speed boosting powers. +1 Ab? Oh wow. Casters don't even get an additional spell per round from it either. If you need haste that badly, your build probably sucks.

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Post by tlantl »

Those characters of mine that have haste spells don't rely on them since the duration is too short. Even using the extend spell feat the spell will fail at the worst moment, it happens and I expect it. Having an increased rate of fire is nice but uses a whole lot of bolts.

As a permanent ability item, I wouldn't want it. This would change the feel of the game world and bring the greatest benefit to the most powerful character builds.

I think that all of the classes should be helped by the magic available, not just a few who want to zoom around areas grinding xp as fast as they can. Rather than add items to allow non casters to use caster abilities without the assistance of a character capable of using these buffs, we might want to think about the whole server's needs to compete and flourish.

Perhaps:
Items that give one or several uses a day with an associated saving throw could become available allowing the use of certain skills or feats or spells.

Any ideas?
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Post by M-A-D »

Haste and haste? it more an movement speed issue and not the spell itself its only one of many and of course if all could get haste or what I prefer perma expeditious retreat it would ruin all classes that can cast it dooh ! !

Since I want to show my worst side how I feel about the arguments I say we shouldnt be able to forge EB in weapons, it totaly ruins the divine classes... .. ..
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Post by KuttingKew »

*sigh* All I wanted was something to stash my heavy items in & the ability to run away & count my loot in safety.
No - I'm not always near a waypoint, nor do I always remember to purchase another portal book when the charges have expired in the one I have/had.
So some classes get haste - whoopee! they then get to spend their hard earned gold on other things, and for those who dont feel having a haste item is 'authentic', they too can exercise that choice. 8)
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Re: item requests

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Have you come to any decision about adding a haste item & magic bags to the server Driller? his topic is being thrashed over & over but from what i see the majority of regular players are in favour of such items.

Maybe you could put us all out of our misery and inform us of your final standing on this matter
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Well, since everyone else was going on about haste I figured I'd add my haste story. LOL. Well I didn't know till level 20 that I could cast haste 3/day DOH! LOL. And I survived just fine. Any way I feel that since anyone could use the item a haste item isn't bad. And as for the mage worries that he doesn't get the spell till later...wear the item till you DO get it.I played a sorcerer on another server and used a haste item till I no longer needed it. And it is handy for mid level characters ( I mean it's appropriate), wouldn't logically see a level 1 with haste item. But the AC and AB boost ( Yes I know it's an extra attack not AB boost. I'm a confessed idiot so you can't sue me :) ), is helpful. But since the economy and magic level of BSK is as it is; it should be an extremely rare item to keep with the RP of the world at large.
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Re: item requests

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Could you add pouches Driller or some kind of container? i ask this because my crafter has very little space left in her inventory, if i had a container of sorts i could store my gems in, id greatly apreciate it. tnx
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I am reluctant to add magic bags, due to a few issues with them.

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shadowflame wrote:Could you add pouches Driller or some kind of container? i ask this because my crafter has very little space left in her inventory, if i had a container of sorts i could store my gems in, id greatly apreciate it. tnx
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