Monster Loot Drops?

Capt Cliff · Post by **Capt Cliff** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:58 pm

Sounds like everyone is having problems with forgie drops, with a few exceptions. Well, either open up a gem stone in the keep, make a gem store like Akons where you need to defeat a guardian or allow all the elemental to drop forgies only, but make them really tough to kill. It's been said before but I want to repeat it to play successfully beyond lvl 40 and into the underdark you need uber gear. To get uber gear you need forgies. A lot of us are hitting a glass ceiling with the only option is play alot of PC's and pool their finds into one PC (via a mule) or find another server.
BSK is a work in progress ... driller's baby ... how can we help it get out of the terrible two's!

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:06 pm

Capt Cliff wrote:Sounds like everyone is having problems with forgie drops, with a few exceptions. Well, either open up a gem stone in the keep, make a gem store like Akons where you need to defeat a guardian or allow all the elemental to drop forgies only, but make them really tough to kill. It's been said before but I want to repeat it to play successfully beyond lvl 40 and into the underdark you need uber gear. To get uber gear you need forgies. A lot of us are hitting a glass ceiling with the only option is play alot of PC's and pool their finds into one PC (via a mule) or find another server.
BSK is a work in progress ... driller's baby ... how can we help it get out of the terrible two's!

LOL!! so true....

Pretty Fly White Guy · Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:29 pm

just because i havn't had one drop doesn't mean i'm having forgie troubles. i''ve got a mule full of 'em

I call him Nizzle

ValentianNizzle · Post by **ValentianNizzle** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:40 pm

Pretty Fly White Guy wrote:just because i havn't had one drop doesn't mean i'm having forgie troubles. i''ve got a mule full of 'em

I call him Nizzle

Finders keepers, loosers weepers. The latter being the one being quoted.

DM_Mystic · Post by **DM_Mystic** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:38 pm

The one prevelant thing I've been seeing in these posts is the word "I". My guess is that each of you is hunting alone. Try hunting in a small party, where you have less chance of getting your arses kicked, and chances are you'll see better loot. It's just too bad that people are generally to greedy and distrustful to travel in parties anymore.

dm_xeen1 · Post by **dm_xeen1** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:19 pm

well said mystic

chbtartdat · Post by **chbtartdat** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:07 am

So do the more people in your party in an area increase your chances of finding more drops? Or does it just ensure your survival IN the area so you can actually FIND drops?

Post by **driller** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:56 am

Guys drops are as random as they can be. There is no pattern other than what NWN random generator comes up with.

-driller

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:56 am

driller wrote:Guys drops are as random as they can be. There is no pattern other than what NWN random generator comes up with.

-driller

didn't you mod the code something like

if d=100
drophigh()
else droplow();

//sorry couldn't find your old post with that in it

how does that work with the randomness of the game system

ValentianNizzle · Post by **ValentianNizzle** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:12 am

k9mouse wrote:
driller wrote:Guys drops are as random as they can be. There is no pattern other than what NWN random generator comes up with.

-driller
didn't you mod the code something like

if d=100
drophigh()
else droplow();

//sorry couldn't find your old post with that in it

how does that work with the randomness of the game system

It was just an example of how the code works. Not how it's implemented on the server I believe. Now will you let this drop? Otherwise I might consider coming back and taking all of your forge stones... in the night!

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:05 am

just trying to understand how the drop system works....

viobane · Post by **viobane** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:15 am

k9mouse wrote:just trying to understand how the drop system works....

But it's *been* explained multiple times. Driller has said that it hasn't changed, although he increased the drop rate of socket gems. The NWN randomizer is wonky, at best. I remember times where it's generated the same drops from ettins for a LONG time (in fact, at the time, it was a good drop, so I made a bit of money off that one). Other times, it just drops crap and keeps dropping crap. You just have to take what it gives you.

Yes, it's too bad for treasure seekers and hoarders, but as far as I can tell from the examples driller has given, and the times he's tried to explain, you may be trying to understand or find an answer to something that's not there. And bringing up the topic again and again doesn't make it any better.

Pretty Fly White Guy · Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:18 am

Fenrip and I both got divine resistance splint mail at the same time just a couple of days ago

I saw a set in the shop as well, idk if it was sold by him or someone else.

Fenrip · Post by **Fenrip** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:38 am

Someone else.

Katar · Post by **Katar** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:55 am

I think a lag spike can sometimes confuse the item generator too. I have gotten 2 of the exact same item from one kill before and recently a party member got 2 scarlett forgies in 1 drop. I think this is because the item generator creates the 2nd item during the lag and doesn't have time to account for the identical item that was just created.

Of course I could be totally wrong about this too