For the Record...Evil Side

eclipse08 · Post by **eclipse08** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:14 pm

On my last note I hinted that Murken likes to buff the monsters and watch them massacre anyone in the area.

Being slightly evil, he figures the monsters deserve some chance against the righteous smarty-buffed-pants killing them willy-nilly.

Is this allowed on BSK? One of my favorite evil tactics on another server was to dominate a big ugly, buff him, then let him loose in a city proper. Let the chaos commence! The heroes who responded got more than they bargained for, leading to awesome RP.

Just a question mind you...

Gibbo · Post by **Gibbo** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:36 pm

I'd imagine if you let too many soul suckers loose in the hamlet and the Blackstone road, a gang of paladin gnomes will ran-sack your house and steal all the clean undergarments.

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:45 pm

i have no problem with that idea of monster buffs and let them loose, but i have some items that make it fair for the some other players

1) make dure that oen rises the dead so that will lose anything on respond
2) if they choose not to be involed, they have a way to aviold all the battles
3) respect other player's time

in other words, a player have about 5 minutes before they leave for work and theyjump on the server to kill some stuff before they leave, they do not have to waste their time being dead.....

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:46 pm

Gibbo wrote: clean undergarments.

question:
how do we know that they are clean

wdpepsiman · Post by **wdpepsiman** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:23 pm

last time i checked k9 you were not in a position of authority so it really does not matter whether you have a problem with it or not.

it is no different than a DM letting loose some monsters within the keep or the hamlet.

that being said check with a DM or Driller to get a clarification

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:54 pm

may be you should learn how to address your post to peeps then.. i was under the impression it is a player debate/poll.. if you didn't want other people's (ie player's) views on the matter, you should have pm them instead.. silly human and/or elf person

Pretty Fly White Guy · Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:13 pm

as long as its all in good faith, and in an area where you would epxect to fight creatures of aa similar level, i would see no problem with finding a more difficult foe to fight.

But as Wdpepsiman so tartly pointed out, it's not our say.

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:50 pm

Pretty Fly White Guy wrote:as long as its all in good faith, and in an area where you would epxect to fight creatures of aa similar level, i would see no problem with finding a more difficult foe to fight.

But as Wdpepsiman so tartly pointed out, it's not our say.

i know and i never claim i have a authority in that matter, i was just stating my opinion on the matter as you have done also

temordae01 · Post by **temordae01** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:39 pm

Bah, bring it on you little runty dwarf. Makes life interesting in lower levels to see some minotaurs in with the ettins.

Pretty Fly White Guy · Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:29 am

k9mouse wrote:
Pretty Fly White Guy wrote:as long as its all in good faith, and in an area where you would epxect to fight creatures of aa similar level, i would see no problem with finding a more difficult foe to fight.

But as Wdpepsiman so tartly pointed out, it's not our say.
i know and i never claim i have a authority in that matter, i was just stating my opinion on the matter as you have done also

I didn't mean that as a slander. i was just saying, everything we say is speculation until the big guy says what's going down.

ST_DM_Myle · Post by **ST_DM_Myle** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:19 am

The technical answer:
Any spell you cast that brings harm to another player is a form of PvP and requires consent. Consult the PvP Consent rules.

The practical answer:
Giving a single nice buff or a few M-I-N-O-R buffs is malicious, but I doubt a DM who is aware of what your doing will care as long as you leave the "victim" a hope to either win or flee.

I have watched some especially cruel high level PC's once as two of them kept buffing and healing some poor lowbie, giving him false hope... as three of their buddies kept buffing the hell out of the monsters. The party chat was hallarious and I don;t think the lowbie every figured out what was happening. He kept accusing me of messing with him... rofl.

The lowbie died a few times, but when the "good samaritans" raise him, he kept plugging away instead of being smart and leaving. I figured that stupid needs to die and stopped watching and I have no idea how it turned out.

NO... do not torment people, but a bit of challenging sport that is "mean" IC but is kept OOC "friendly" should be fine.

Lastly, the truth is that as long as your not buffing the hell out of the monsters and the "victim" has a reasonable chance to win or flee... (keep things sporting)... it should be fine.

The test of this depends on WHO your messing with. If you mess with someone who is easily annoyed, you should expect them to become annoyed and try and cause you trouble.

Pick your victims from those who don't mind a bit of maliciousness and you will be fine.

Is this a bit nebulous? indecisive? Good.... This is one of the grey areas thats I mentioned in other posts. Jerks can cause us to have to make this a black and whitem hard and fast rule......

Or....

Players and use common sense and be aware of how and who their actions effect and use proper judgement.

Use of proper judgement will allow the DM's not to have to get directly involved.

...and thats the ideal arrangement.. right??

Myle

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:59 pm

good words of wisdom, Myle

let them be heed

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