Arena etiquette

Katar · Post by **Katar** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:22 am

I want to start playing around in the arena eventually and wanted to clear up the rules 1st. I read an old post here that said clerics are not supposed to use any heal spells, harm, gs, or implosion. It said Mages could not use timestop, gs, bigby's, etc. Is this still the case and do people abide by the limits? Are there any other OOC rules I need to know before entering? I want to make sure I don't break any rules of honor.

Carpe_DM1 · Post by **Carpe_DM1** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:42 am

Those are standard agreements upon fights in the arena, however some like to add a bit of risk with those spells. It is best to just set the rules of your duel right before it just to make sure both sides know. Standard ones are no timestop, harm, heal, gs, or implosions. (too easy to spam them as that is what many can do) It encourages using your head and trying other things out.

EliotRey · Post by **EliotRey** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:45 pm

Speaking of Implosion... Is there any spell or protection against that?!? It's not counted as death magic I know, so aside from just having high fort saves and praying you don't roll a one... What do you do?

viobane · Post by **viobane** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:47 pm

Get one of those d20 without a 1.

EliotRey · Post by **EliotRey** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:49 pm

Ha! I'm over here trying to rub the 1 of mine as we speak!

viobane · Post by **viobane** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:55 pm

EliotRey wrote:Ha! I'm over here trying to rub the 1 of mine as we speak!

Oh that just won't work... A DM is bound to see it.

But no, I think that a fort save is the only way to avoid implosion. That's why people avoid mindflayers. No matter HOW powerful you are, you are never immune to rolling a 1. If it were a will save, then rogues and SDs would be set with the slippery mind feat!

Queen Naga II · Post by **Queen Naga II** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:56 pm

Nothing you can do on BSK about it, unless some item becomes available that gives you immunity to implosion spell itself. Which is highly unlikely to ever happen, so your stuck with the same as the rest of us.

Personally I roll way too many "ones" I deplore the very poor random number generator bioware uses for NWN where I have rolled a "one" six times on the bounce and one time I rolled it eight times on the bounce fortunately that was my character in melee against a troll if I remember correctly.

So spending a lot of time in the mindflayer city you'll get caught out sooner or later to bad luck, more likely sooner if your luck is poor.

EliotRey · Post by **EliotRey** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:30 pm

Yes, my level 40 monk/SD had an interesting time in the Mindflayers city for just that reason, and my level 18 monk had that same problem with Loknar the Insane. Ah well, such is life... or death, as it were!

dmcclain · Post by **dmcclain** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:40 pm

This might be a dumb statement/question but its still kinda keeping with the thread. My level 18 cleric imploded a minotaur yesterday and for the love of pete, I don't know how. Was it a fluke? or was it something I did?

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:42 pm

dmcclain wrote:This might be a dumb statement/question but its still kinda keeping with the thread. My level 18 cleric imploded a minotaur yesterday and for the love of pete, I don't know how. Was it a fluke? or was it something I did?

by an act of Eon, herself...

//sometimes one does get very lucky

viobane · Post by **viobane** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:49 pm

A weapon or armor or item effect? There are a number of on hit items... Having implosion as an OH would be pretty darn cool! Even with a low DC.

EliotRey · Post by **EliotRey** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:00 pm

And as a point of clarification, seeing as how my level 17 monk was with your level 18 cleric at the time

... You did not "implode" that minotaur, you slayed him with slay living. Implosion is very distinct in that there is an expanding field of negative energy (reminiscent of a black hole) that opens beneath your character when it's cast on you, and if you fail your saving throw the next thing you hear is the thud of your corpse hitting the ground!

Toodles!!

k9mouse · Post by **k9mouse** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:17 pm

this item so uber that you will never see it in game

a weapon of death... "on hit with Implosion" in a hands super buff wm

do or die or die or die....

Caesius · Post by **Caesius** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:40 pm

A spell resistance score higher than the enemy's caster level + 20 makes for an effective defense against Implosion.

Queen Naga II · Post by **Queen Naga II** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:42 pm

I have a monk with 48SR and still get caught on a roll of "one".