soak and damage resist ?

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soak and damage resist ?

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Am just curious for now about whether these 2 things stack and if they are applied which comes first ?

For example say you have a great belt 20/- slashing resist and you apply through crafting the right forge stone +5/ 20 soak, that is also a question can one item have both these effects ?

Does this effectively give you 40/- protection from slashing damage all be it against slashing only and only the physical damage not any form of what some call exotic damage (fire, acid, sonic, etc..)...

I'd like to know the mechanics of this as well, which comes first and which comes first if these effects are on separate items ?

Appreciate any imput from any one whom knows the specifics...
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Sorry friend but that does not answer the question at all it only deals with damage resistance not with both nor does it explain which is done first nor does it answer the stacking question, only in relation to another damage resistance not soak ...
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They do not stack. Only damage immunities stack and I limit the stacking in most cases to 35% per damage type.

The stacking part is hard coded in the game engine.
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You can find detailed answers here:

https://nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Stack
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Thank you for the answer Driller was aware of the difference in immunity stacking ... Basicallt knowing these two do not stack is going to save me wasting a forge stone that would give me no benefit... Close off this thread if you wish...
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Soak is a Damage Reduction property and it will stack with Damage Resistance. Different DRed effects don't stack and different DRes effects don't stack, only the best one is used. So you can stack 10/+6 DRed and 15/- DRes, but you can't stack 10/+6 DRed and the 9/- DRed from EDR3.

In terms of the order, it goes Damage Immunity then Damage Resistance then Damage Reduction.
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Damn, I need to nerf that.
Yunim wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:24 pm Soak is a Damage Reduction property and it will stack with Damage Resistance. Different DRed effects don't stack and different DRes effects don't stack, only the best one is used. So you can stack 10/+6 DRed and 15/- DRes, but you can't stack 10/+6 DRed and the 9/- DRed from EDR3.

In terms of the order, it goes Damage Immunity then Damage Resistance then Damage Reduction.
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SkyBlues87 wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:02 pm Sorry friend but that does not answer the question at all it only deals with damage resistance not with both nor does it explain which is done first nor does it answer the stacking question, only in relation to another damage resistance not soak ...
Just want to point out that if you had scrolled down 6 lines, you would have found the link that driller gave you...
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driller wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:56 pm Damn, I need to nerf that.
Yunim wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:24 pm Soak is a Damage Reduction property and it will stack with Damage Resistance. Different DRed effects don't stack and different DRes effects don't stack, only the best one is used. So you can stack 10/+6 DRed and 15/- DRes, but you can't stack 10/+6 DRed and the 9/- DRed from EDR3.

In terms of the order, it goes Damage Immunity then Damage Resistance then Damage Reduction.
Oh, please don't. It's still very expensive to get those reductions/resistances. Also, if you remove that, it will be even more impossible to complete high-end quests and boss fights without a large group (which is harder and harder to gather as the number of users keep dropping off, at least at my daytime here in Europe.
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Damage Reduction from items and Damage Reduction from feats don't stack, so it doesn't really need nerfing. Any build with 10/- DRed or more doesn't get any benefit from using 10/+6 DRed items since they will still only have 10 DRed. Also any creature with a +6 weapon or better ignores the 10/+6 DRed so it's useless against most mobs at level 40.
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It was a joke.
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driller wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:03 amIt was a joke.
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